tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179659995184563617.post918283727786715050..comments2023-09-10T05:30:40.675-07:00Comments on Brickin The Nutz...A Razz Poker Blog: The KORD Razz Tourney and a Hand QuestionThe Poker Enthusiasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02372429834343345867noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179659995184563617.post-49154608860981785482008-01-16T14:24:00.000-08:002008-01-16T14:24:00.000-08:00I figured you paired the hand. I knew you still h...I figured you paired the hand. I knew you still had a good draw that could beat my 8 and I had a draw to improve to a 7. With don re-raising to a nut draw and the chance that tou could already have a better made 8 I folded. I almost folded anyway before his reraise. I prolly had odds to call but I was much more vulnerable playing against two players so I thought that was the best move.The Poker Enthusiasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02372429834343345867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179659995184563617.post-77834275410920056202008-01-16T13:06:00.001-08:002008-01-16T13:06:00.001-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12831176156389777158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179659995184563617.post-11344084582614610222008-01-16T13:06:00.000-08:002008-01-16T13:06:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12831176156389777158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179659995184563617.post-20766128107901261502008-01-16T13:03:00.000-08:002008-01-16T13:03:00.000-08:00I can offer my insight from my viewpoint in the ha...I can offer my insight from my viewpoint in the hand. <BR/><BR/>I start off with 24/3. FT mixes up the cards after showdown, but trust me...I did NOT start with the Jack. It was my river.<BR/><BR/>Obviously, I start out raising with a 4-low. You and Don call and we see the next card.<BR/><BR/>With 24/32, my 32 looks scary and I hope to exploit that. Don has a Ten, so I figure he is probably willing to give up on the hand, since he merely called "preflop". I figured that your 87 was a handicap too. So, I bet out and you both call. Pretty straightforward.<BR/><BR/>My next card is an 8, for 24/328. I'm drawing to a good 8-low (not great), but Don has a Ten-low. You are my only real concern with 873 giving you a possibly strong 7 draw, but since you were so passive AND since it appeared like I had your 8-low beat based on the board, I bet out again, hoping that (a) perhaps you paired up, or (b) your starting hand wasn't that strong anyway. I am also happy to just push out Don and see one more card with you. When Don raises, I feel committed to a call. At the very least, I know I am in great shape if he bricks next. <BR/><BR/>Here, I think you probably should have called. Still, why do you think you were ahead of me? I know you have the info now, but what then made you think that 87 was in the lead. Here is where I strongly disagree with your analysis. Did you just assume that I had paired one of my hole cards? That's the only thing that makes sense. Perhaps my flat call of Don's raise could be a tipoff, but its also a smart move to make if I had a monster and wanted more players in the pot.<BR/><BR/>Once you fold, I get a sweet card and Don pairs, and the rest is acadmeic.<BR/><BR/>So, the long and short of it is that you probably should've called. You were very short, too, with less than 10x the BB, so if I were you, I would've considered that hand my last stand once I made the 87-low and hope for the best.Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12831176156389777158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179659995184563617.post-55364314978540005212008-01-16T09:19:00.000-08:002008-01-16T09:19:00.000-08:00PokerE,I think you made a good decision by folding...PokerE,<BR/><BR/>I think you made a good decision by folding on 5th. Your made 8 low is a dog to the nut draw on 5th. I always like to get my money in with the best hand, and when I'm behind, I play to live another day (hand). You may have won this particular hand had you stayed in, but in the long run, it's a good decision.<BR/><BR/>MEMPHISMEMPHIS00https://www.blogger.com/profile/04193324342347220968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179659995184563617.post-5178827572974156802008-01-16T08:46:00.000-08:002008-01-16T08:46:00.000-08:00Hey guys,Great blog you've got here, especially si...Hey guys,<BR/><BR/>Great blog you've got here, especially since it's dedicated to my favorite game. There seem to be a lot of players really getting into razz now, and having a place to discuss it and share beats/brags with your friends makes it even more fun. Good luck to all of you and your readers in your upcoming tourney.<BR/><BR/>As for the hand you posted, I would say folding 5th is a mistake. It's only one more bet back to you, and it's possible you have the best hand right now if the original raiser paired his 2. Go to the pro poker tools site (http://www.propokertools.com/index.jsp) and run an equity sim in their razz simulator to see where you stood. Multiway pots can be very tricky to play, but in loose games it's an important skill to develop.<BR/><BR/>Stay smooth,<BR/><BR/>Doctor RazzTheRazzDoctorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16976339176207253076noreply@blogger.com