It has been a while for me. Life interrupted for a while but I should be able to get back into this again. For those of you waiting on word about the next KORD, I will post something later this week.
So after staying away for a while I played the 2K on Full Tilt the other night. Over all it was an uneventful night. Some hands held up and other flamed out. Kings made calls they shouldn’t and nut draws bricked. Through it all I had a bad player at my table that kept me in the game. I won about 3K chips from him alone. Anyway, I kept a slow climb going until going a little card dead near the end. I had to start stealing to stay alive and it worked. On the final table bubble I worked hard to stay alive. I needed one hand to get me over the edge but it never came as I ended the night in 9th place.
As far as cash goes, I played last night and had a solid night. I finished up a buy in and could have been up another $30 if not for a runner runner suckout. I used some new ideas that Jude talked to me about from the book Razz Poker To Win by Mitchell Cogert. I won’t give you the details because you should read the book. The process he discusses isn’t much different then what I use but helps define how you play. Check it out if you like to play razz.
Sunday, April 13, 2008
Wednesday, April 9, 2008
5/10 Razz Surflexus Style
I played a little 5/10 Razz on Poker Stars tonight. This is my first time playing 5/10 Razz. Here are a few hands from the session:
PokerStars Game #16615507433: Razz Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/04/09 - 22:38:18 (ET)Table 'Benguella III' 8-max
Seat 1: Adam Juice ($87 in chips)
Seat 2: hlmencken ($192 in chips)
Seat 3: Sire'sChance ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($279.50 in chips)
Seat 5: **SHARX** ($307.50 in chips)
Seat 6: mischal ($259 in chips)
Seat 7: La Bete ($90.50 in chips)
Seat 8: theidiotend ($141 in chips)
50cent antes everybody ! ! ! !
*** 3rd STREET ***Dealt to Adam Juice [Qs]
Dealt to hlmencken [Tc]
Dealt to Sire'sChance [Jh]
Dealt to surflexus [2h 5c 6h]
Dealt to **SHARX** [Ad]
Dealt to mischal [3c]
Dealt to La Bete [7d]
Dealt to theidiotend [9d]
Adam Juice: brings in for $2
hlmencken: folds
Sire'sChance: folds
surflexus: raises $3 to $5
**SHARX**: calls $5
mischal: folds
La Bete: folds
theidiotend: folds
Adam Juice: calls $3
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [Qs] [7h]
Dealt to surflexus [2h 5c 6h] [Kd]
Dealt to **SHARX** [Ad] [Ah]
Adam Juice: bets $5
surflexus: calls $5
**SHARX**: calls $5
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [Qs 7h] [Jc]
Dealt to surflexus [2h 5c 6h Kd] [5s]
Dealt to **SHARX** [Ad Ah] [Kc]
Adam Juice: checks
surflexus: bets $10
**SHARX**: folds
Adam Juice: calls $10
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [Qs 7h Jc] [7c]
Dealt to surflexus [2h 5c 6h Kd 5s] [3s]
surflexus: bets $10
Adam Juice: folds
surflexus collected $52 from pot
surflexus: doesn't show hand
PokerStars Game #16615675008: Razz Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/04/09 - 22:46:15 (ET)Table 'Benguella III' 8-max
Seat 1: Adam Juice ($60 in chips)
Seat 2: hlmencken ($252 in chips)
Seat 3: Sire'sChance ($88 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($302.50 in chips)
Seat 5: **SHARX** ($296.50 in chips)
Seat 6: mischal ($243 in chips)
Seat 7: atactor ($238.50 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [6s]
Dealt to hlmencken [6c]
Dealt to Sire'sChance [7h]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 7c 2s]
Dealt to **SHARX** [Ks]
Dealt to mischal [4d]
Dealt to atactor [4h]
**SHARX**: brings in for $2
mischal: raises $3 to $5
atactor: folds
Adam Juice: folds
hlmencken: calls $5
Sire'sChance: folds
surflexus: calls $5
**SHARX**: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to hlmencken [6c] [4c]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 7c 2s] [8c]
Dealt to mischal [4d] [2h]
mischal: bets $5
hlmencken: calls $5
surflexus: calls $5
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to hlmencken [6c 4c] [9d]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 7c 2s 8c] [5h]
Dealt to mischal [4d 2h] [Ah]
mischal: bets $10
hlmencken: folds
surflexus: calls $10
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [4s 7c 2s 8c 5h] [Js]
Dealt to mischal [4d 2h Ah] [2d]
surflexus: bets $10
mischal: raises $10 to $20
surflexus: calls $10
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [4s 7c 2s 8c 5h Js] [Ad]
surflexus: checks
mischal: bets $10
surflexus: calls $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mischal: shows [Ac 9c 4d 2h Ah 2d Qh] (Lo: Q,9,4,2,A)
surflexus: shows [4s 7c 2s 8c 5h Js Ad] (Lo: 7,5,4,2,A)
surflexus collected $112.50 from pot
PokerStars Game #16615978566: Razz Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/04/09 - 23:01:04 (ET)Table 'Benguella III' 8-max
Seat 1: Adam Juice ($68.50 in chips)
Seat 2: nilsef ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: Sire'sChance ($90 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($327 in chips)
Seat 5: Dofr ($207.50 in chips)
Seat 6: mischal ($237.50 in chips)
Seat 7: atactor ($212.50 in chips)
Seat 8: theidiotend ($122 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [6d]
Dealt to nilsef [9h]
Dealt to Sire'sChance [3s]
Dealt to surflexus [3d 5h Ah]
Dealt to Dofr [8s]
Dealt to mischal [7c]
Dealt to atactor [Ac]
Dealt to theidiotend [9d]
nilsef: brings in for $2
Sire'sChance: folds
surflexus: raises $3 to $5
Dofr: folds
mischal: folds
atactor: raises $5 to $10
theidiotend: folds
Adam Juice: raises $5 to $15
nilsef: folds
surflexus: calls $10
atactor: raises $5 to $20
Betting is capped.
Adam Juice: calls $5
surflexus: calls $5
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [6d] [9c]
Dealt to surflexus [3d 5h Ah] [2c]
Dealt to atactor [Ac] [7d]
surflexus: bets $5
atactor: raises $5 to $10
Adam Juice: calls $10
surflexus: calls $5
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [6d 9c] [8h]
Dealt to surflexus [3d 5h Ah 2c] [Js]
Dealt to atactor [Ac 7d] [As]Dofr said,
Adam Juice: bets $10
surflexus: calls $10
atactor: raises $10 to $20
Adam Juice: raises $10 to $30
surflexus: calls $20
atactor: raises $10 to $40
Betting is capped
Adam Juice: calls $8 and is all-in
surflexus: calls $10
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [6d 9c 8h] [Ks]
Dealt to surflexus [3d 5h Ah 2c Js] [3h]
Dealt to atactor [Ac 7d As] [9s]
surflexus: checks
atactor: checks
*** RIVER ***Dealt to surflexus [3d 5h Ah 2c Js 3h] [Qh]
surflexus: checks
atactor: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
surflexus: shows [3d 5h Ah 2c Js 3h Qh] (Lo: J,5,3,2,A)
atactor: shows [6c 4d Ac 7d As 9s Ts] (Lo: 9,7,6,4,A)
atactor collected $4 from side pot
Adam Juice: mucks hand
atactor collected $207 from main pot
PokerStars Game #16615507433: Razz Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/04/09 - 22:38:18 (ET)Table 'Benguella III' 8-max
Seat 1: Adam Juice ($87 in chips)
Seat 2: hlmencken ($192 in chips)
Seat 3: Sire'sChance ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($279.50 in chips)
Seat 5: **SHARX** ($307.50 in chips)
Seat 6: mischal ($259 in chips)
Seat 7: La Bete ($90.50 in chips)
Seat 8: theidiotend ($141 in chips)
50cent antes everybody ! ! ! !
*** 3rd STREET ***Dealt to Adam Juice [Qs]
Dealt to hlmencken [Tc]
Dealt to Sire'sChance [Jh]
Dealt to surflexus [2h 5c 6h]
Dealt to **SHARX** [Ad]
Dealt to mischal [3c]
Dealt to La Bete [7d]
Dealt to theidiotend [9d]
Adam Juice: brings in for $2
hlmencken: folds
Sire'sChance: folds
surflexus: raises $3 to $5
**SHARX**: calls $5
mischal: folds
La Bete: folds
theidiotend: folds
Adam Juice: calls $3
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [Qs] [7h]
Dealt to surflexus [2h 5c 6h] [Kd]
Dealt to **SHARX** [Ad] [Ah]
Adam Juice: bets $5
surflexus: calls $5
**SHARX**: calls $5
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [Qs 7h] [Jc]
Dealt to surflexus [2h 5c 6h Kd] [5s]
Dealt to **SHARX** [Ad Ah] [Kc]
Adam Juice: checks
surflexus: bets $10
**SHARX**: folds
Adam Juice: calls $10
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [Qs 7h Jc] [7c]
Dealt to surflexus [2h 5c 6h Kd 5s] [3s]
surflexus: bets $10
Adam Juice: folds
surflexus collected $52 from pot
surflexus: doesn't show hand
PokerStars Game #16615675008: Razz Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/04/09 - 22:46:15 (ET)Table 'Benguella III' 8-max
Seat 1: Adam Juice ($60 in chips)
Seat 2: hlmencken ($252 in chips)
Seat 3: Sire'sChance ($88 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($302.50 in chips)
Seat 5: **SHARX** ($296.50 in chips)
Seat 6: mischal ($243 in chips)
Seat 7: atactor ($238.50 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [6s]
Dealt to hlmencken [6c]
Dealt to Sire'sChance [7h]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 7c 2s]
Dealt to **SHARX** [Ks]
Dealt to mischal [4d]
Dealt to atactor [4h]
**SHARX**: brings in for $2
mischal: raises $3 to $5
atactor: folds
Adam Juice: folds
hlmencken: calls $5
Sire'sChance: folds
surflexus: calls $5
**SHARX**: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to hlmencken [6c] [4c]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 7c 2s] [8c]
Dealt to mischal [4d] [2h]
mischal: bets $5
hlmencken: calls $5
surflexus: calls $5
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to hlmencken [6c 4c] [9d]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 7c 2s 8c] [5h]
Dealt to mischal [4d 2h] [Ah]
mischal: bets $10
hlmencken: folds
surflexus: calls $10
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [4s 7c 2s 8c 5h] [Js]
Dealt to mischal [4d 2h Ah] [2d]
surflexus: bets $10
mischal: raises $10 to $20
surflexus: calls $10
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [4s 7c 2s 8c 5h Js] [Ad]
surflexus: checks
mischal: bets $10
surflexus: calls $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mischal: shows [Ac 9c 4d 2h Ah 2d Qh] (Lo: Q,9,4,2,A)
surflexus: shows [4s 7c 2s 8c 5h Js Ad] (Lo: 7,5,4,2,A)
surflexus collected $112.50 from pot
PokerStars Game #16615978566: Razz Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/04/09 - 23:01:04 (ET)Table 'Benguella III' 8-max
Seat 1: Adam Juice ($68.50 in chips)
Seat 2: nilsef ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: Sire'sChance ($90 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($327 in chips)
Seat 5: Dofr ($207.50 in chips)
Seat 6: mischal ($237.50 in chips)
Seat 7: atactor ($212.50 in chips)
Seat 8: theidiotend ($122 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [6d]
Dealt to nilsef [9h]
Dealt to Sire'sChance [3s]
Dealt to surflexus [3d 5h Ah]
Dealt to Dofr [8s]
Dealt to mischal [7c]
Dealt to atactor [Ac]
Dealt to theidiotend [9d]
nilsef: brings in for $2
Sire'sChance: folds
surflexus: raises $3 to $5
Dofr: folds
mischal: folds
atactor: raises $5 to $10
theidiotend: folds
Adam Juice: raises $5 to $15
nilsef: folds
surflexus: calls $10
atactor: raises $5 to $20
Betting is capped.
Adam Juice: calls $5
surflexus: calls $5
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [6d] [9c]
Dealt to surflexus [3d 5h Ah] [2c]
Dealt to atactor [Ac] [7d]
surflexus: bets $5
atactor: raises $5 to $10
Adam Juice: calls $10
surflexus: calls $5
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [6d 9c] [8h]
Dealt to surflexus [3d 5h Ah 2c] [Js]
Dealt to atactor [Ac 7d] [As]Dofr said,
Adam Juice: bets $10
surflexus: calls $10
atactor: raises $10 to $20
Adam Juice: raises $10 to $30
surflexus: calls $20
atactor: raises $10 to $40
Betting is capped
Adam Juice: calls $8 and is all-in
surflexus: calls $10
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Adam Juice [6d 9c 8h] [Ks]
Dealt to surflexus [3d 5h Ah 2c Js] [3h]
Dealt to atactor [Ac 7d As] [9s]
surflexus: checks
atactor: checks
*** RIVER ***Dealt to surflexus [3d 5h Ah 2c Js 3h] [Qh]
surflexus: checks
atactor: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
surflexus: shows [3d 5h Ah 2c Js 3h Qh] (Lo: J,5,3,2,A)
atactor: shows [6c 4d Ac 7d As 9s Ts] (Lo: 9,7,6,4,A)
atactor collected $4 from side pot
Adam Juice: mucks hand
atactor collected $207 from main pot
Monday, April 7, 2008
Razz 2/4 - Surflexus Style
I decided to play a little 2/4 Razz last night and had some pretty good results. I play a rather unorthodox game at times so put on your seat belt. :)
We'll call this Hand 1 ( for reference purposes if you want to comment about it )
PokerStars Game #16544228054: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:40:25 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($35.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($104.75 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($118.25 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 6: maat ($35.50 in chips)
Seat 7: AceTo5 ($179.50 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($77.50 in chips)
Just to condense this down I'm editing the antes from the hand histories.
I sat down with $120 and this is our first good starting hand.
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [9s]
Dealt to Sinciere [Qc]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Qd]
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h]
Dealt to KyRice [Kd]
Dealt to maat [As]
Dealt to AceTo5 [Ts]
Dealt to K McClayton [Qh]
KyRice: brings in for $1
maat: raises $1 to $2
AceTo5: folds
K McClayton: folds
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: folds
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h] [8d]
Dealt to maat [As] [2c]
maat: bets $2
surflexus: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h 8d] [3d]
Dealt to maat [As 2c] [7h]
maat: bets $4
surflexus: calls $4
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h 8d 3d] [5s]
Dealt to maat [As 2c 7h] [3c]
maat: bets $4
surflexus: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h 8d 3d 5s] [2h]
maat: bets $4
surflexus: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
maat: shows [4s Tc As 2c 7h 3c 9c] (Lo: 7,4,3,2,A)
surflexus: shows [4h 6d 5h 8d 3d 5s 2h] (Lo: 6,5,4,3,2)
surflexus collected $34 from pot
A nice little start. I got a little lucky but I think I had a good enough hand to call down his bets. Let me know if you think I should have played it differently. I'm posting these hands to hopefully get some constructive feedback.
Hand 2:
Seat 1: ryank408 ($35 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($104.25 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($49 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($135.75 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($23.25 in chips)
Seat 6: maat ($22 in chips)
Seat 7: AceTo5 ($179 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($76 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [Qh]
Dealt to Sinciere [7s]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Ad]
Dealt to surflexus [5d As 7d]
Dealt to KyRice [9h]
Dealt to maat [8s]
Dealt to AceTo5 [6d]
Dealt to K McClayton [2d]
ryank408: brings in for $1
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: calls $1
surflexus: calls $1
KyRice: folds
maat: folds
AceTo5: folds
K McClayton: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [Qh] [Ac]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Ad] [Jc]
Dealt to surflexus [5d As 7d] [9d]
surflexus: bets $2
ryank408: folds
PokerMedo: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [Ad Jc] [Ks]
Dealt to surflexus [5d As 7d 9d] [8h]
surflexus: bets $4
PokerMedo: folds
surflexus collected $9 from pot
surflexus: doesn't show hand
This one worked out OK but I think maybe I should have completed it on 3rd to get the bring in out of the hand. I'm still fairly new to the table so I'm still trying to be a little cautious and I really don't want PokerMedo 3 betting it on 3rd so I decided to just call.
Hand 3:
PokerStars Game #16544271933: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:42:29 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($33.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($104 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($45.75 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($141.50 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($58 in chips)
Seat 6: maat ($21.75 in chips)
Seat 7: AceTo5 ($178.75 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($75.75 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [4s]
Dealt to Sinciere [7s]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Tc]
Dealt to surflexus [2d 3s Kd]
Dealt to KyRice [Qc]
Dealt to maat [Ah]
Dealt to AceTo5 [9d]
Dealt to K McClayton [5s]
surflexus: brings in for $1
KyRice: calls
$1maat: folds
AceTo5: folds
K McClayton: folds
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: raises $1 to $2
surflexus: calls $1
KyRice: calls $1
Medo is popping up a buck with a 10 showing and Ky is coming along for the ride with a Q. I'll pay a buck to go to 4th with them.
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [Tc] [9s]
Dealt to surflexus [2d 3s Kd] [6d] bing, i'm catching up
Dealt to KyRice [Qc] [4c]
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: checks
KyRice: checks
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [Tc 9s] [Kc]
Dealt to surflexus [2d 3s Kd 6d] [2s]
Dealt to KyRice [Qc 4c] [Td]
KyRice: checks
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: checks I think a bet might have taken this had down right here but I'm still being a little tighter than I normally am.
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [Tc 9s Kc] [9h]
Dealt to surflexus [2d 3s Kd 6d 2s] [Ad]
Dealt to KyRice [Qc 4c Td] [Ks]
surflexus: bets $4 Time to put this hand to bed.
KyRice: folds
PokerMedo: folds
surflexus collected $8 from pot
surflexus: doesn't show hand
Hand 4:
PokerStars Game #16544364999: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:47:01 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($29.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($103 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($26.75 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($146.50 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($75 in chips)
Seat 7: AceTo5 ($198.75 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($74.50 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [4h]
Dealt to Sinciere [Ad]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Jd]
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c]
Dealt to KyRice [5s]
Dealt to AceTo5 [Kd]
Dealt to K McClayton [Ah]
AceTo5: brings in for $1
K McClayton: raises $1 to $2
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: folds
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: raises $2 to $4
AceTo5: folds
K McClayton: calls $2
surflexus: calls $2
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c] [9c]
Dealt to KyRice [5s] [9s]
Dealt to K McClayton [Ah] [7d]
K McClayton: bets $2
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c 9c] [8c]
Dealt to KyRice [5s 9s] [Ks]
Dealt to K McClayton [Ah 7d] [Kh]
surflexus: checks <-- I'm ahead and maybe I should bet here but I think they have a lot of outs against me so I check.
KyRice: checks
K McClayton: checks
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c 9c 8c] [Tc]
Dealt to KyRice [5s 9s Ks] [7h]
Dealt to K McClayton [Ah 7d Kh] [Qh]
surflexus: checks
KyRice: bets $4 <-- notice the favor is not returned :)
K McClayton: folds
surflexus: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c 9c 8c Tc] [3h]
surflexus: bets $4
KyRice: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
surflexus: shows [6s As 5c 9c 8c Tc 3h] (Lo: 8,6,5,3,A)
KyRice: mucks hand KyRice mucked [7c 3c 5s 9s Ks 7h Jh]
surflexus collected $35.75 from pot
Hand 5:
PokerStars Game #16544411009: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:49:16 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($45 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($102.50 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($26.25 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($166.75 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($66 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [Ts]
Dealt to Sinciere [Qs]
Dealt to PokerMedo [6c]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c]
Dealt to KyRice [7c]
Dealt to K McClayton [8s]
Sinciere: brings in for $1
PokerMedo: calls $1
surflexus: raises $1 to $2
KyRice: folds
K McClayton: folds
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: calls $1
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [6c] [Js]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c] [Ac]
surflexus: bets $2
PokerMedo: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [6c Js] [Th]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c Ac] [Ks]
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: checks
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [6c Js Th] [Ah]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c Ac Ks] [6h]
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: checks I'm obviously way ahead here. The only chance I have to get any more money is to make him think I paired up.
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c Ac Ks 6h] [3d]
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: bets $4
PokerMedo: calls $4 It works and I get him to call another $4 with a 10 low.
*** SHOW DOWN ***
surflexus: shows [4s 2h 3c Ac Ks 6h 3d] (Lo: 6,4,3,2,A)
PokerMedo: mucks hand PokerMedo mucked [5h 7s 6c Js Th Ah Jc]
surflexus collected $18.50 from pot
Hand 6:
PokerStars Game #16544443843: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:50:51 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($44.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($100.75 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($40 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($176.50 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($46.75 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($70.25 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [2s]
Dealt to Sinciere [Th]
Dealt to PokerMedo [5s]
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h]
Dealt to KyRice [4c]
Dealt to K McClayton [Jh]
K McClayton: brings in for $1
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: raises $1 to $2
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: calls $2
K McClayton: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [5s] [Ac]
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h] [As]
Dealt to KyRice [4c] [2c]
KyRice: checks
PokerMedo: bets $2
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [5s Ac] [Qc]
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h As] [6s]
Dealt to KyRice [4c 2c] [9c]
KyRice: checks
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: bets $4
KyRice: calls $4
PokerMedo: calls $4
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [5s Ac Qc] [6h]
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h As 6s] [Kc]
Dealt to KyRice [4c 2c 9c] [Ah]
KyRice: bets $4
PokerMedo: calls $4
surflexus: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h As 6s Kc] [2d]
KyRice: checks
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: bets $4
KyRice: calls $4
PokerMedo: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
surflexus: shows [4d 3h 9h As 6s Kc 2d] (Lo: 6,4,3,2,A)
KyRice: mucks hand KyRice mucked [9d 5h 4c 2c 9c Ah 4h]
PokerMedo: mucks hand PokerMedo mucked [Kh 8d 5s Ac Qc 6h 3c]
surflexus collected $48.50 from pot
PokerMedo said, "umreal"
We'll call this Hand 1 ( for reference purposes if you want to comment about it )
PokerStars Game #16544228054: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:40:25 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($35.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($104.75 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($118.25 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 6: maat ($35.50 in chips)
Seat 7: AceTo5 ($179.50 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($77.50 in chips)
Just to condense this down I'm editing the antes from the hand histories.
I sat down with $120 and this is our first good starting hand.
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [9s]
Dealt to Sinciere [Qc]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Qd]
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h]
Dealt to KyRice [Kd]
Dealt to maat [As]
Dealt to AceTo5 [Ts]
Dealt to K McClayton [Qh]
KyRice: brings in for $1
maat: raises $1 to $2
AceTo5: folds
K McClayton: folds
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: folds
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h] [8d]
Dealt to maat [As] [2c]
maat: bets $2
surflexus: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h 8d] [3d]
Dealt to maat [As 2c] [7h]
maat: bets $4
surflexus: calls $4
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h 8d 3d] [5s]
Dealt to maat [As 2c 7h] [3c]
maat: bets $4
surflexus: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h 8d 3d 5s] [2h]
maat: bets $4
surflexus: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
maat: shows [4s Tc As 2c 7h 3c 9c] (Lo: 7,4,3,2,A)
surflexus: shows [4h 6d 5h 8d 3d 5s 2h] (Lo: 6,5,4,3,2)
surflexus collected $34 from pot
A nice little start. I got a little lucky but I think I had a good enough hand to call down his bets. Let me know if you think I should have played it differently. I'm posting these hands to hopefully get some constructive feedback.
Hand 2:
Seat 1: ryank408 ($35 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($104.25 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($49 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($135.75 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($23.25 in chips)
Seat 6: maat ($22 in chips)
Seat 7: AceTo5 ($179 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($76 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [Qh]
Dealt to Sinciere [7s]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Ad]
Dealt to surflexus [5d As 7d]
Dealt to KyRice [9h]
Dealt to maat [8s]
Dealt to AceTo5 [6d]
Dealt to K McClayton [2d]
ryank408: brings in for $1
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: calls $1
surflexus: calls $1
KyRice: folds
maat: folds
AceTo5: folds
K McClayton: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [Qh] [Ac]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Ad] [Jc]
Dealt to surflexus [5d As 7d] [9d]
surflexus: bets $2
ryank408: folds
PokerMedo: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [Ad Jc] [Ks]
Dealt to surflexus [5d As 7d 9d] [8h]
surflexus: bets $4
PokerMedo: folds
surflexus collected $9 from pot
surflexus: doesn't show hand
This one worked out OK but I think maybe I should have completed it on 3rd to get the bring in out of the hand. I'm still fairly new to the table so I'm still trying to be a little cautious and I really don't want PokerMedo 3 betting it on 3rd so I decided to just call.
Hand 3:
PokerStars Game #16544271933: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:42:29 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($33.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($104 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($45.75 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($141.50 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($58 in chips)
Seat 6: maat ($21.75 in chips)
Seat 7: AceTo5 ($178.75 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($75.75 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [4s]
Dealt to Sinciere [7s]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Tc]
Dealt to surflexus [2d 3s Kd]
Dealt to KyRice [Qc]
Dealt to maat [Ah]
Dealt to AceTo5 [9d]
Dealt to K McClayton [5s]
surflexus: brings in for $1
KyRice: calls
$1maat: folds
AceTo5: folds
K McClayton: folds
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: raises $1 to $2
surflexus: calls $1
KyRice: calls $1
Medo is popping up a buck with a 10 showing and Ky is coming along for the ride with a Q. I'll pay a buck to go to 4th with them.
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [Tc] [9s]
Dealt to surflexus [2d 3s Kd] [6d] bing, i'm catching up
Dealt to KyRice [Qc] [4c]
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: checks
KyRice: checks
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [Tc 9s] [Kc]
Dealt to surflexus [2d 3s Kd 6d] [2s]
Dealt to KyRice [Qc 4c] [Td]
KyRice: checks
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: checks I think a bet might have taken this had down right here but I'm still being a little tighter than I normally am.
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [Tc 9s Kc] [9h]
Dealt to surflexus [2d 3s Kd 6d 2s] [Ad]
Dealt to KyRice [Qc 4c Td] [Ks]
surflexus: bets $4 Time to put this hand to bed.
KyRice: folds
PokerMedo: folds
surflexus collected $8 from pot
surflexus: doesn't show hand
Hand 4:
PokerStars Game #16544364999: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:47:01 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($29.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($103 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($26.75 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($146.50 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($75 in chips)
Seat 7: AceTo5 ($198.75 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($74.50 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [4h]
Dealt to Sinciere [Ad]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Jd]
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c]
Dealt to KyRice [5s]
Dealt to AceTo5 [Kd]
Dealt to K McClayton [Ah]
AceTo5: brings in for $1
K McClayton: raises $1 to $2
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: folds
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: raises $2 to $4
AceTo5: folds
K McClayton: calls $2
surflexus: calls $2
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c] [9c]
Dealt to KyRice [5s] [9s]
Dealt to K McClayton [Ah] [7d]
K McClayton: bets $2
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c 9c] [8c]
Dealt to KyRice [5s 9s] [Ks]
Dealt to K McClayton [Ah 7d] [Kh]
surflexus: checks <-- I'm ahead and maybe I should bet here but I think they have a lot of outs against me so I check.
KyRice: checks
K McClayton: checks
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c 9c 8c] [Tc]
Dealt to KyRice [5s 9s Ks] [7h]
Dealt to K McClayton [Ah 7d Kh] [Qh]
surflexus: checks
KyRice: bets $4 <-- notice the favor is not returned :)
K McClayton: folds
surflexus: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c 9c 8c Tc] [3h]
surflexus: bets $4
KyRice: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
surflexus: shows [6s As 5c 9c 8c Tc 3h] (Lo: 8,6,5,3,A)
KyRice: mucks hand KyRice mucked [7c 3c 5s 9s Ks 7h Jh]
surflexus collected $35.75 from pot
Hand 5:
PokerStars Game #16544411009: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:49:16 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($45 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($102.50 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($26.25 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($166.75 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($66 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [Ts]
Dealt to Sinciere [Qs]
Dealt to PokerMedo [6c]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c]
Dealt to KyRice [7c]
Dealt to K McClayton [8s]
Sinciere: brings in for $1
PokerMedo: calls $1
surflexus: raises $1 to $2
KyRice: folds
K McClayton: folds
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: calls $1
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [6c] [Js]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c] [Ac]
surflexus: bets $2
PokerMedo: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [6c Js] [Th]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c Ac] [Ks]
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: checks
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [6c Js Th] [Ah]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c Ac Ks] [6h]
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: checks I'm obviously way ahead here. The only chance I have to get any more money is to make him think I paired up.
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c Ac Ks 6h] [3d]
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: bets $4
PokerMedo: calls $4 It works and I get him to call another $4 with a 10 low.
*** SHOW DOWN ***
surflexus: shows [4s 2h 3c Ac Ks 6h 3d] (Lo: 6,4,3,2,A)
PokerMedo: mucks hand PokerMedo mucked [5h 7s 6c Js Th Ah Jc]
surflexus collected $18.50 from pot
Hand 6:
PokerStars Game #16544443843: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:50:51 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($44.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($100.75 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($40 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($176.50 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($46.75 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($70.25 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [2s]
Dealt to Sinciere [Th]
Dealt to PokerMedo [5s]
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h]
Dealt to KyRice [4c]
Dealt to K McClayton [Jh]
K McClayton: brings in for $1
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: raises $1 to $2
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: calls $2
K McClayton: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [5s] [Ac]
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h] [As]
Dealt to KyRice [4c] [2c]
KyRice: checks
PokerMedo: bets $2
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [5s Ac] [Qc]
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h As] [6s]
Dealt to KyRice [4c 2c] [9c]
KyRice: checks
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: bets $4
KyRice: calls $4
PokerMedo: calls $4
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [5s Ac Qc] [6h]
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h As 6s] [Kc]
Dealt to KyRice [4c 2c 9c] [Ah]
KyRice: bets $4
PokerMedo: calls $4
surflexus: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h As 6s Kc] [2d]
KyRice: checks
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: bets $4
KyRice: calls $4
PokerMedo: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
surflexus: shows [4d 3h 9h As 6s Kc 2d] (Lo: 6,4,3,2,A)
KyRice: mucks hand KyRice mucked [9d 5h 4c 2c 9c Ah 4h]
PokerMedo: mucks hand PokerMedo mucked [Kh 8d 5s Ac Qc 6h 3c]
surflexus collected $48.50 from pot
PokerMedo said, "umreal"
Sunday, April 6, 2008
Razz Book Review: Play Razz Poker to Win by Mitchell Cogert
Finally, I have a minute to post about the book that I've been reading, Play Razz Poker to Win by Mitchell Cogert.
No matter which form of poker you're playing, it all comes down to starting hand selection. This is (or should be!) the core of your game and Cogert gives excellent advice in this area with a well thought out Points System. It's an easy 5 step system that will help you decide whether you should play that A 7 (8) you've been dealt or actually (gasp!) fold it. I think the system is great for beginners, as it takes away all of the 'guess work' for you and helps you make those borderline decisions a lot easier.
Of course, you can't always wait for a great 3 card low, just as you can't always wait for Aces and Kings in NLH, and Cogert gives great advice on the subject of well timed stealing with the use of position, up cards and the reads of others.
His advice for defending your bring-in bet was very good (I'm guilty of this also from time to time) with a simple Two-Level Rule, which also applies to 4th street play.
I think 4th street is where things can get sticky for a lot of players, myself included. Cogert gives many examples, scenarios and odds for play on this street. Being aware of the proper odds for drawing vs. folding on 4th is key in this game. His catch-line is Don't be the Azz in Razz!
There's even a section of hand histories from an actual Full Tilt session for all the hand history buffs out there where you can follow along as he plays a 5/10 cash game.
Then there's the section in the back on odds of made 9s vs draws, which I thought was very informative.
All in all, I thought it was a very well written book on Razz and I would recommend it for beginners, as well as intermediate players, especially for the Starting Hand Points System.
So, if you're getting bored with NLH (and who doesn't, eventually??) and want to learn a new game or if you just want to be better at the R in HORSE, give this book a read and you will no longer be the Azz in Razz. :)
No matter which form of poker you're playing, it all comes down to starting hand selection. This is (or should be!) the core of your game and Cogert gives excellent advice in this area with a well thought out Points System. It's an easy 5 step system that will help you decide whether you should play that A 7 (8) you've been dealt or actually (gasp!) fold it. I think the system is great for beginners, as it takes away all of the 'guess work' for you and helps you make those borderline decisions a lot easier.
Of course, you can't always wait for a great 3 card low, just as you can't always wait for Aces and Kings in NLH, and Cogert gives great advice on the subject of well timed stealing with the use of position, up cards and the reads of others.
His advice for defending your bring-in bet was very good (I'm guilty of this also from time to time) with a simple Two-Level Rule, which also applies to 4th street play.
I think 4th street is where things can get sticky for a lot of players, myself included. Cogert gives many examples, scenarios and odds for play on this street. Being aware of the proper odds for drawing vs. folding on 4th is key in this game. His catch-line is Don't be the Azz in Razz!
There's even a section of hand histories from an actual Full Tilt session for all the hand history buffs out there where you can follow along as he plays a 5/10 cash game.
Then there's the section in the back on odds of made 9s vs draws, which I thought was very informative.
All in all, I thought it was a very well written book on Razz and I would recommend it for beginners, as well as intermediate players, especially for the Starting Hand Points System.
So, if you're getting bored with NLH (and who doesn't, eventually??) and want to learn a new game or if you just want to be better at the R in HORSE, give this book a read and you will no longer be the Azz in Razz. :)
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