Monday, April 7, 2008

Razz 2/4 - Surflexus Style

I decided to play a little 2/4 Razz last night and had some pretty good results. I play a rather unorthodox game at times so put on your seat belt. :)
We'll call this Hand 1 ( for reference purposes if you want to comment about it )
PokerStars Game #16544228054: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:40:25 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($35.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($104.75 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($118.25 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 6: maat ($35.50 in chips)
Seat 7: AceTo5 ($179.50 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($77.50 in chips)
Just to condense this down I'm editing the antes from the hand histories.
I sat down with $120 and this is our first good starting hand.
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [9s]
Dealt to Sinciere [Qc]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Qd]
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h]
Dealt to KyRice [Kd]
Dealt to maat [As]
Dealt to AceTo5 [Ts]
Dealt to K McClayton [Qh]
KyRice: brings in for $1
maat: raises $1 to $2
AceTo5: folds
K McClayton: folds
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: folds
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h] [8d]
Dealt to maat [As] [2c]
maat: bets $2
surflexus: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h 8d] [3d]
Dealt to maat [As 2c] [7h]
maat: bets $4
surflexus: calls $4
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h 8d 3d] [5s]
Dealt to maat [As 2c 7h] [3c]
maat: bets $4
surflexus: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [4h 6d 5h 8d 3d 5s] [2h]
maat: bets $4
surflexus: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
maat: shows [4s Tc As 2c 7h 3c 9c] (Lo: 7,4,3,2,A)
surflexus: shows [4h 6d 5h 8d 3d 5s 2h] (Lo: 6,5,4,3,2)
surflexus collected $34 from pot
A nice little start. I got a little lucky but I think I had a good enough hand to call down his bets. Let me know if you think I should have played it differently. I'm posting these hands to hopefully get some constructive feedback.
Hand 2:
Seat 1: ryank408 ($35 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($104.25 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($49 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($135.75 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($23.25 in chips)
Seat 6: maat ($22 in chips)
Seat 7: AceTo5 ($179 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($76 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [Qh]
Dealt to Sinciere [7s]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Ad]
Dealt to surflexus [5d As 7d]
Dealt to KyRice [9h]
Dealt to maat [8s]
Dealt to AceTo5 [6d]
Dealt to K McClayton [2d]
ryank408: brings in for $1
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: calls $1
surflexus: calls $1
KyRice: folds
maat: folds
AceTo5: folds
K McClayton: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [Qh] [Ac]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Ad] [Jc]
Dealt to surflexus [5d As 7d] [9d]
surflexus: bets $2
ryank408: folds
PokerMedo: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [Ad Jc] [Ks]
Dealt to surflexus [5d As 7d 9d] [8h]
surflexus: bets $4
PokerMedo: folds
surflexus collected $9 from pot
surflexus: doesn't show hand
This one worked out OK but I think maybe I should have completed it on 3rd to get the bring in out of the hand. I'm still fairly new to the table so I'm still trying to be a little cautious and I really don't want PokerMedo 3 betting it on 3rd so I decided to just call.

Hand 3:
PokerStars Game #16544271933: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:42:29 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($33.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($104 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($45.75 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($141.50 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($58 in chips)
Seat 6: maat ($21.75 in chips)
Seat 7: AceTo5 ($178.75 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($75.75 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [4s]
Dealt to Sinciere [7s]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Tc]
Dealt to surflexus [2d 3s Kd]
Dealt to KyRice [Qc]
Dealt to maat [Ah]
Dealt to AceTo5 [9d]
Dealt to K McClayton [5s]
surflexus: brings in for $1
KyRice: calls
$1maat: folds
AceTo5: folds
K McClayton: folds
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: raises $1 to $2
surflexus: calls $1
KyRice: calls $1
Medo is popping up a buck with a 10 showing and Ky is coming along for the ride with a Q. I'll pay a buck to go to 4th with them.
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [Tc] [9s]
Dealt to surflexus [2d 3s Kd] [6d] bing, i'm catching up
Dealt to KyRice [Qc] [4c]
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: checks
KyRice: checks
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [Tc 9s] [Kc]
Dealt to surflexus [2d 3s Kd 6d] [2s]
Dealt to KyRice [Qc 4c] [Td]
KyRice: checks
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: checks I think a bet might have taken this had down right here but I'm still being a little tighter than I normally am.
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [Tc 9s Kc] [9h]
Dealt to surflexus [2d 3s Kd 6d 2s] [Ad]
Dealt to KyRice [Qc 4c Td] [Ks]
surflexus: bets $4 Time to put this hand to bed.
KyRice: folds
PokerMedo: folds
surflexus collected $8 from pot
surflexus: doesn't show hand

Hand 4:
PokerStars Game #16544364999: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:47:01 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($29.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($103 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($26.75 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($146.50 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($75 in chips)
Seat 7: AceTo5 ($198.75 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($74.50 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [4h]
Dealt to Sinciere [Ad]
Dealt to PokerMedo [Jd]
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c]
Dealt to KyRice [5s]
Dealt to AceTo5 [Kd]
Dealt to K McClayton [Ah]
AceTo5: brings in for $1
K McClayton: raises $1 to $2
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: folds
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: raises $2 to $4
AceTo5: folds
K McClayton: calls $2
surflexus: calls $2
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c] [9c]
Dealt to KyRice [5s] [9s]
Dealt to K McClayton [Ah] [7d]
K McClayton: bets $2
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c 9c] [8c]
Dealt to KyRice [5s 9s] [Ks]
Dealt to K McClayton [Ah 7d] [Kh]
surflexus: checks <-- I'm ahead and maybe I should bet here but I think they have a lot of outs against me so I check.
KyRice: checks
K McClayton: checks
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c 9c 8c] [Tc]
Dealt to KyRice [5s 9s Ks] [7h]
Dealt to K McClayton [Ah 7d Kh] [Qh]
surflexus: checks
KyRice: bets $4 <-- notice the favor is not returned :)
K McClayton: folds
surflexus: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [6s As 5c 9c 8c Tc] [3h]
surflexus: bets $4
KyRice: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
surflexus: shows [6s As 5c 9c 8c Tc 3h] (Lo: 8,6,5,3,A)
KyRice: mucks hand KyRice mucked [7c 3c 5s 9s Ks 7h Jh]
surflexus collected $35.75 from pot

Hand 5:
PokerStars Game #16544411009: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:49:16 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($45 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($102.50 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($26.25 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($166.75 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($66 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [Ts]
Dealt to Sinciere [Qs]
Dealt to PokerMedo [6c]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c]
Dealt to KyRice [7c]
Dealt to K McClayton [8s]
Sinciere: brings in for $1
PokerMedo: calls $1
surflexus: raises $1 to $2
KyRice: folds
K McClayton: folds
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: calls $1
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [6c] [Js]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c] [Ac]
surflexus: bets $2
PokerMedo: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [6c Js] [Th]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c Ac] [Ks]
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: checks
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [6c Js Th] [Ah]
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c Ac Ks] [6h]
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: checks I'm obviously way ahead here. The only chance I have to get any more money is to make him think I paired up.
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [4s 2h 3c Ac Ks 6h] [3d]
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: bets $4
PokerMedo: calls $4 It works and I get him to call another $4 with a 10 low.
*** SHOW DOWN ***
surflexus: shows [4s 2h 3c Ac Ks 6h 3d] (Lo: 6,4,3,2,A)
PokerMedo: mucks hand PokerMedo mucked [5h 7s 6c Js Th Ah Jc]
surflexus collected $18.50 from pot

Hand 6:
PokerStars Game #16544443843: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/06 - 22:50:51 (ET)Table 'Modestia V' 8-max
Seat 1: ryank408 ($44.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Sinciere ($100.75 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerMedo ($40 in chips)
Seat 4: surflexus ($176.50 in chips)
Seat 5: KyRice ($46.75 in chips)
Seat 8: K McClayton ($70.25 in chips)
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ryank408 [2s]
Dealt to Sinciere [Th]
Dealt to PokerMedo [5s]
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h]
Dealt to KyRice [4c]
Dealt to K McClayton [Jh]
K McClayton: brings in for $1
ryank408: folds
Sinciere: folds
PokerMedo: raises $1 to $2
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: calls $2
K McClayton: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [5s] [Ac]
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h] [As]
Dealt to KyRice [4c] [2c]
KyRice: checks
PokerMedo: bets $2
surflexus: calls $2
KyRice: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [5s Ac] [Qc]
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h As] [6s]
Dealt to KyRice [4c 2c] [9c]
KyRice: checks
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: bets $4
KyRice: calls $4
PokerMedo: calls $4
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to PokerMedo [5s Ac Qc] [6h]
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h As 6s] [Kc]
Dealt to KyRice [4c 2c 9c] [Ah]
KyRice: bets $4
PokerMedo: calls $4
surflexus: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to surflexus [4d 3h 9h As 6s Kc] [2d]
KyRice: checks
PokerMedo: checks
surflexus: bets $4
KyRice: calls $4
PokerMedo: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
surflexus: shows [4d 3h 9h As 6s Kc 2d] (Lo: 6,4,3,2,A)
KyRice: mucks hand KyRice mucked [9d 5h 4c 2c 9c Ah 4h]
PokerMedo: mucks hand PokerMedo mucked [Kh 8d 5s Ac Qc 6h 3c]
surflexus collected $48.50 from pot
PokerMedo said, "umreal"


2 comments:

yancy said...

Couple of comments about hand #4.

1. I'm raising on 3rd here every time in an attempt to squeeze KyRice's 5 out of the hand. Your 6 is a monster with three pair bricks dead (AA5) and only one out gone (4). I like to play heads up when possible, and definitely don't mind putting an extra bet in now when I'm almost certainly a favorite against any one other hand.

(Looks like it wouldn't have worked anyway since KyRice raised it himself, but that was impossible to know at the time.)

2. KyRice's call on 7th is a total donation. Your board is 598T and his jack can beat what, exactly? What two in the hole does he think you started with? Seems like a buddy list candidate.

The Monster Stack said...

Your analysis for hand #2 is spot on. Definitely complete on 3rd. The rest of that hand played itself. You got very lucky on hand #1. Unless you have a reason to think you have the best hand/draw, that hand will get you into trouble long term. yancy's comments are perfect. I would look up this guy every time I logged on. Good call on hand #3 on 3rd. Don't know why a 10 would complete there or why on earth called the bring-in or the completion with a queen up. 5th street is a must bet. Obvious bet on 6th. NH. Hand #4, bet when ahead. No free drawing in razz. If they want to win, make 'em pay. Installcall on 6th. Would like to see a raise with the hard 8 on 7th. He's just betting it after his steal attempt on 6th hoping you missed 7th. If your hand was good on 6th it only got better on 7th (note that I am talking about this opponent in this situation. he needs to be called down more and value bet/raised more given the weak hands he seems to have been showing.) Hand #5, well played. Nice set up checking the second nuts on 6th. Hand #6, is PoekerMedo mad because he bricked every street?

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~TMS