Wednesday, May 7, 2008

Playing Razz Skillz

I played the blogger Skillz game last night and as it was Razz I thought I would talk a little about it.

It didn’t start well as I slowly chipped down and hit a lot of bricks. I was down to about 2.1K when I finally won a solid pot.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6315938607: Skill Series (44660205), Table 6 - 60/120 Ante 10 - Limit Razz - 22:10:49 ET - 2008/05/06
Seat 1: oossuuu754 (3,399)
Seat 2: drome (3,689)
Seat 3: weak_player (3,292)
Seat 4: NumbBono (3,177)
Seat 5: Drizztdj (1,915)
Seat 6: pokerenthusiast (2,159)
Seat 7: katitude (3,369)
oossuuu754 antes 10
drome antes 10
weak_player antes 10
NumbBono antes 10
Drizztdj antes 10
pokerenthusiast antes 10
katitude antes 10
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to oossuuu754 [Th]
Dealt to drome [8c]
Dealt to weak_player [3d]
Dealt to NumbBono [6h]
Dealt to Drizztdj [6d]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [5s 4d] [2s]
Dealt to katitude [8d]
oossuuu754 is high with [Th]
weak_player: sick action that is
oossuuu754 brings in for 20
drome completes it to 60
weak_player folds
NumbBono folds
Drizztdj folds
pokerenthusiast raises to 120 – I’m raising anytime I have three cards 5 and below because I want to isolate if possible..
weak_player: way, way, way sick
katitude folds
Drizztdj: $2/$5 average pot was $300
oossuuu754 folds
drome calls 60

I’m pretty sure he has 3 very low cards behind but like my position.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to drome [8c] [5h]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [5s 4d 2s] [5c]
pokerenthusiast bets 60
weak_player: yeah
drome calls 60

I bet here to represent. I also know he could have bricked.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to drome [8c 5h] [Kh]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [5s 4d 2s 5c] [9s]
pokerenthusiast bets 120
drome calls 120

I’m still representing but look to be ahead nicely.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to drome [8c 5h Kh] [Ts]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [5s 4d 2s 5c 9s] [6c]
pokerenthusiast bets 120
Drizztdj: one was $2,500
drome calls 120

Now I am ahead and unless he think I have bricked he should fold.

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [5s 4d 2s 5c 9s 6c] [7s]
pokerenthusiast bets 120
drome calls 120

I have won the hand and hope he calls.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
pokerenthusiast wins the pot (1,170) with 7,6,5,4,2
Seat 2: drome mucked [4s 3h 8c 5h Kh Ts Ah] - 8,5,4,3,A

He was drawing to an 8 on 7th and hit so I needed to hit also.

I then won a big hand in which I was drawing to the nuts after 4th street and chased down the winner.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6316023341: Skill Series (44660205), Table 6 - 80/160 Ante 15 - Limit Razz - 22:17:27 ET - 2008/05/06
Seat 1: oossuuu754 (3,314)
Seat 2: drome (3,354)
Seat 3: weak_player (3,577)
Seat 4: NumbBono (3,197)
Seat 5: Drizztdj (1,595)
Seat 6: pokerenthusiast (2,704)
Seat 7: katitude (3,259)
oossuuu754 antes 15
drome antes 15
weak_player antes 15
NumbBono antes 15
Drizztdj antes 15
pokerenthusiast antes 15
katitude antes 15
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to oossuuu754 [Ac]
Dealt to drome [Ks]
Dealt to weak_player [8d]
Dealt to NumbBono [5s]
Dealt to Drizztdj [7s]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3s Ah] [2s]
Dealt to katitude [9h]
drome is high with [Ks]
drome brings in for 25
weak_player calls 25
NumbBono folds
Drizztdj folds
pokerenthusiast completes it to 80 – standard raise
katitude folds
oossuuu754 calls 80
drome folds
weak_player calls 55

Three to the flop is ok because I have a great starting hand. Oossuuu754 has a semi large range and I have a great read on weak because of his 8 up.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to oossuuu754 [Ac] [Js]
Dealt to weak_player [8d] [3d]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3s Ah 2s] [4s]
pokerenthusiast bets 80
oossuuu754 folds
weak_player calls 80

Drawing to the nut means I may not fold this regardless of what happens. Even if oossuuu has a good starting hand his fold is solid. We are heads up.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to weak_player [8d 3d] [Ad]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3s Ah 2s 4s] [Qd]
weak_player bets 160
pokerenthusiast calls 160

Anyone will raise this board. He could have bricked but regardless I have maybe 13 outs. I have the price to call.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to weak_player [8d 3d Ad] [4d]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3s Ah 2s 4s Qd] [Jc]
weak_player bets 160
pokerenthusiast: i'm gonna suck out
pokerenthusiast has 15 seconds left to act
pokerenthusiast calls 160

I actually tell him I’m gonna catch here. I know I’m behind but 160 to win about 1K or 5-1 means I have to call. I’m hoping he just made an 8.

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3s Ah 2s 4s Qd Jc] [6c]
weak_player bets 160
pokerenthusiast calls 160

I only call here because he could have the nut.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
weak_player shows [5h 4c 8d 3d Ad 4d 3h] 8,5,4,3,A
pokerenthusiast shows [6c 3s 2s 4s Qd Jc Ah] 6,4,3,2,A
pokerenthusiast wins the pot (1,490) with 6,4,3,2,A

And then a couple of hands later I run into this hand.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6316088269: Skill Series (44660205), Table 6 - 100/200 Ante 15 - Limit Razz - 22:22:31 ET - 2008/05/06
Seat 1: oossuuu754 (2,724)
Seat 2: drome (3,224)
Seat 3: weak_player (3,597)
Seat 4: NumbBono (3,447)
Seat 5: Drizztdj (1,490)
Seat 6: pokerenthusiast (3,209)
Seat 7: katitude (3,309)
oossuuu754 antes 15
drome antes 15
weak_player antes 15
NumbBono antes 15
Drizztdj antes 15
pokerenthusiast antes 15
katitude antes 15
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to oossuuu754 [3s]
Dealt to drome [2d]
Dealt to weak_player [Jc]
Dealt to NumbBono [8h]
Dealt to Drizztdj [Td]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d Ac] [3d]
Dealt to katitude [Ad]
weak_player is high with [Jc]
weak_player brings in for 30
NumbBono folds
Drizztdj folds
pokerenthusiast completes it to 100
katitude folds
oossuuu754 calls 100
drome calls 100
weak_player folds

Two of my bricks are gone so I like my chances. I only wish I could reraise here.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to oossuuu754 [3s] [4s]
Dealt to drome [2d] [9d]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d Ac 3d] [7d]
oossuuu754 bets 100
drome calls 100
pokerenthusiast raises to 200
oossuuu754 calls 100
drome calls 100

I re-reaise here to get some of drome’s money into the pot. He is clearly behind two players and will need to hit two out of the next three cards to beat two players.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to oossuuu754 [3s 4s] [Js]
Dealt to drome [2d 9d] [Ks]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d Ac 3d 7d] [Kh]
oossuuu754 bets 200
drome folds
pokerenthusiast calls 200

Standard call because my king and his jack won’t play.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to oossuuu754 [3s 4s Js] [4c]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d Ac 3d 7d Kh] [Jd]
pokerenthusiast checks
oossuuu754 bets 200
pokerenthusiast calls 200

I actually think I’m ahead here but know I am vulnerable so I check call…This may have been to passive.

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d Ac 3d 7d Kh Jd] [2s]
pokerenthusiast bets 200
oossuuu754 raises to 400
pokerenthusiast calls 200

I bet out my 7 and call his re-raise. I think he was hoping I bet a brick and knew his only chance to win the hand was if I fold.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
oossuuu754 shows [9c 8c 3s 4s Js 4c 7h] 9,8,7,4,3
pokerenthusiast shows [4d 2s 3d 7d Kh Jd Ac] 7,4,3,2,A
pokerenthusiast wins the pot (2,635) with 7,4,3,2,A

This is when I made my first big mistake.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6316349413: Skill Series (44660205), Table 6 - 120/240 Ante 20 - Limit Razz - 22:43:04 ET - 2008/05/06
Seat 1: oossuuu754 (2,530)
Seat 2: drome (3,918)
Seat 3: weak_player (2,822)
Seat 4: NumbBono (3,817)
Seat 5: Drizztdj (1,150)
Seat 6: pokerenthusiast (3,539)
Seat 7: katitude (3,224)
oossuuu754 antes 20
drome antes 20
weak_player antes 20
NumbBono antes 20
Drizztdj antes 20
pokerenthusiast antes 20
katitude antes 20
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to oossuuu754 [5h]
Dealt to drome [Qs]
Dealt to weak_player [7c]
Dealt to NumbBono [8c]
Dealt to Drizztdj [4h]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3c 6h] [6s]
Dealt to katitude [Js]
drome is high with [Qs]
drome brings in for 40
weak_player folds
NumbBono folds
drome: purdy
Drizztdj folds
pokerenthusiast completes it to 120
katitude calls 120
oossuuu754 folds
drome folds

I raise trying to steal and get called by a jack.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3c 6h 6s] [Ah]
Dealt to katitude [Js] [3d]
pokerenthusiast bets 120
katitude calls 120

I have to bet here.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3c 6h 6s Ah] [6d]
Dealt to katitude [Js 3d] [9h]
katitude bets 240
pokerenthusiast calls 240

This hurts but I make a bad call to make it worse. I was hoping to catch good and get Kat to fold.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3c 6h 6s Ah 6d] [Ts]
Dealt to katitude [Js 3d 9h] [2d]
katitude bets 240
pokerenthusiast folds
Uncalled bet of 240 returned to katitude
katitude mucks
katitude wins the pot (1,140)

Floating bets can work but not when you have a set.

Then I run into a sick hand that could tilt just about anyone.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6316368437: Skill Series (44660205), Table 6 - 120/240 Ante 20 - Limit Razz - 22:44:34 ET - 2008/05/06
Seat 1: oossuuu754 (2,610)
Seat 2: drome (3,818)
Seat 3: weak_player (2,762)
Seat 4: NumbBono (3,717)
Seat 5: Drizztdj (1,090)
Seat 6: pokerenthusiast (2,999)
Seat 7: katitude (4,004)
oossuuu754 antes 20
drome antes 20
weak_player antes 20
NumbBono antes 20
Drizztdj antes 20
pokerenthusiast antes 20
katitude antes 20
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to oossuuu754 [Ad]
Dealt to drome [Ac]
Dealt to weak_player [Qd]
Dealt to NumbBono [8d]
Dealt to Drizztdj [7s]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4h 3d] [2h]
Dealt to katitude [Th]
weak_player is high with [Qd]
weak_player brings in for 40
NumbBono folds
Drizztdj completes it to 120
pokerenthusiast raises to 240
katitude folds
oossuuu754 folds
drome folds
weak_player folds
Drizztdj raises to 360
pokerenthusiast calls 120

Short stack re-raises my raise and I just call trying to control the pot size a little.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to Drizztdj [7s] [Qs]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4h 3d 2h] [9h]
pokerenthusiast bets 120
Drizztdj raises to 240
pokerenthusiast calls 120

I’m clearly ahead but still wanted to make sure I have it locked up.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to Drizztdj [7s Qs] [Ts]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4h 3d 2h 9h] [5d]
pokerenthusiast bets 240
Drizztdj raises to 470, and is all in
pokerenthusiast calls 230
Drizztdj shows [6h 3c 7s Qs Ts]
pokerenthusiast shows [4h 3d 2h 9h 5d]

Drawing to the nuts and two cards ahead is almost a sure winner…almost.
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to Drizztdj [6h 3c 7s Qs Ts] [2c]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4h 3d 2h 9h 5d] [3h]
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to Drizztdj [6h 3c 7s Qs Ts 2c] [8s]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4h 3d 2h 9h 5d 3h] [Kd]
Drizztdj shows [6h 3c 7s Qs Ts 2c 8s] 8,7,6,3,2
pokerenthusiast shows [4h 3d 2h 9h 5d 3h Kd] 9,5,4,3,2
Drizztdj wins the pot (2,320) with 8,7,6,3,2

Runner runner death by Razz. I can’t blame him for calling with his short stack…I was just unlucky.

At this point I needed a hand to try and double with and I find something good to look at.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6316491740: Skill Series (44660205), Table 6 - 150/300 Ante 25 - Limit Razz - 22:54:24 ET - 2008/05/06
Seat 1: oossuuu754 (2,795)
Seat 2: drome (3,138)
Seat 3: weak_player (3,957)
Seat 4: NumbBono (4,587)
Seat 5: Drizztdj (1,380)
Seat 6: pokerenthusiast (1,514)
Seat 7: katitude (3,629)
oossuuu754 antes 25
drome antes 25
weak_player antes 25
NumbBono antes 25
Drizztdj antes 25
pokerenthusiast antes 25
katitude antes 25
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to oossuuu754 [8c]
Dealt to drome [Qd]
Dealt to weak_player [5s]
Dealt to NumbBono [2s]
Dealt to Drizztdj [9c]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d As] [3d]
Dealt to katitude [4c]
drome is high with [Qd]
drome brings in for 50
weak_player folds
NumbBono completes it to 150
Drizztdj folds
pokerenthusiast raises to 300
katitude raises to 450
oossuuu754 folds
drome folds
Roberto55 sits down
Roberto55 adds 1,955
NumbBono has 15 seconds left to act
NumbBono folds
pokerenthusiast calls 150

I reraised trying to Isolate and it gets popped again and we are heads up.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d As 3d] [7h]
Dealt to katitude [4c] [3c]
weak_player: that last brick was a blessing in disguise
katitude bets 150
pokerenthusiast raises to 300
katitude calls 150

Once I get this 7 I’m ready to go to war.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d As 3d 7h] [6s]
Dealt to katitude [4c 3c] [7s]
katitude bets 300
pokerenthusiast raises to 600
katitude raises to 900
pokerenthusiast calls 139, and is all in
katitude shows [8s 5d 4c 3c 7s]
pokerenthusiast shows [4d As 3d 7h 6s]
Uncalled bet of 161 returned to katitude

I make my 7 and get all in vs. an 8. I can’t ask for anything more.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d As 3d 7h 6s] [3s]
Dealt to katitude [8s 5d 4c 3c 7s] [2h]

Kat improves to a better 7 and my outs are slim.

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d As 3d 7h 6s 3s] [5c]
Dealt to katitude [8s 5d 4c 3c 7s 2h] [Jc]
katitude shows [8s 5d 4c 3c 7s 2h Jc] 7,5,4,3,2
Roberto55: All right - here next to the lovely Kat
pokerenthusiast shows [4d As 3d 7h 6s 3s 5c] 6,5,4,3,A
pokerenthusiast wins the pot (3,353) with 6,5,4,3,A

I hit good and make a 6 to take the pot. I’m still in need of a big hand to make a good run.

I chip up a little and then move back down before getting involved in this hand.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6316852730: Skill Series (44660205), Table 6 - 300/600 Ante 50 - Limit Razz - 23:23:39 ET - 2008/05/06
Seat 1: oossuuu754 (4,974)
Seat 2: drome (8,386)
Seat 3: weak_player (5,592)
Seat 4: MarsMan2001 (2,698)
Seat 5: Loretta8 (2,492)
Seat 6: pokerenthusiast (2,528)
Seat 8: change100 (6,959)
oossuuu754 antes 50
drome antes 50
weak_player antes 50
MarsMan2001 antes 50
Loretta8 antes 50
pokerenthusiast antes 50
change100 antes 50
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to oossuuu754 [Qh]
Dealt to drome [7c]
Dealt to weak_player [Kd]
Dealt to MarsMan2001 [9s]
Dealt to Loretta8 [8c]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [7s 5s] [Ad]
Dealt to change100 [5c]
weak_player is high with [Kd]
weak_player brings in for 100
MarsMan2001 folds
BamBamCan sits down
BamBamCan adds 2,613
Loretta8 has 15 seconds left to act
Loretta8 folds
pokerenthusiast completes it to 300
change100 folds
oossuuu754 folds
drome calls 300
weak_player folds

A few of my bricks are tied up so I like the look of this hand.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to drome [7c] [8h]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [7s 5s Ad] [8d]
pokerenthusiast bets 300
drome calls 300

I want to see where I’m at and don’t mind a call.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to drome [7c 8h] [Kh]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [7s 5s Ad 8d] [As]
drome bets 600
pokerenthusiast calls 600

I brick but call because his king and my second ace will not play.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to drome [7c 8h Kh] [9c]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [7s 5s Ad 8d As] [3h]
drome checks
pokerenthusiast bets 600
drome calls 600

I hit good and have the lead. I just need to hold on.

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [7s 5s Ad 8d As 3h] [8s]
drome checks
pokerenthusiast bets 600
drome calls 600

Lets hope it stays good.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Zeem (Observer): good luck you brickheads
pokerenthusiast wins the pot (5,250) with 8,7,5,3,A
Seat 2: drome mucked [4s 3s 7c 8h Kh 9c 3d] - 9,8,7,4,3

This puts me in position to make a run.

The all but the end hits me as I made this mistake.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6316947697: Skill Series (44660205), Table 6 - 400/800 Ante 75 - Limit Razz - 23:31:14 ET - 2008/05/06
Seat 1: oossuuu754 (5,174)
Seat 2: drome (7,959)
Seat 3: weak_player (4,267)
Seat 5: Loretta8 (1,567)
Seat 6: pokerenthusiast (4,578)
Seat 7: BamBamCan (6,163)
Seat 8: change100 (6,534)
oossuuu754 antes 75
drome antes 75
weak_player antes 75
Loretta8 antes 75
pokerenthusiast antes 75
BamBamCan antes 75
change100 antes 75
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to oossuuu754 [8d]
Dealt to drome [Tc]
Dealt to weak_player [Jd]
Dealt to Loretta8 [5d]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [6c 7c] [5c]
Dealt to BamBamCan [8s]
Dealt to change100 [5s]
weak_player is high with [Jd]
BamBamCan: good lord !
AlCantHang sits down
AlCantHang adds 3,847
weak_player brings in for 100
Loretta8 completes it to 400
pokerenthusiast raises to 800
BamBamCan folds
change100 calls 800
oossuuu754 folds
drome folds
weak_player folds
Loretta8 raises to 1,200
pokerenthusiast calls 400
change100 calls 400

I tried to isolate but it didn’t work.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to Loretta8 [5d] [2s]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [6c 7c 5c] [4c]
Dealt to change100 [5s] [9s]
Loretta8 bets 292, and is all in
BamBamCan: THAT would be BRICKIN' the nutz Change
pokerenthusiast calls 292
change100 calls 292

I’m ahead but not crazy ahead.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to Loretta8 [5d 2s] [6d]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [6c 7c 5c 4c] [Kc]
Dealt to change100 [5s 9s] [2d]
pokerenthusiast checks
change100 bets 800
pokerenthusiast has 15 seconds left to act
pokerenthusiast calls 800

I’m behind but have a draw on the 9.Plenty of money in the pot to justify except that I may be behind vs. most of that money.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to Loretta8 [5d 2s 6d] [Ts]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [6c 7c 5c 4c Kc] [8c]
Dealt to change100 [5s 9s 2d] [7s]
change100 bets 800
pokerenthusiast calls 800

I have the 8 but change could have the 7. Maybe a fold is right here but I called hoping for bricks vs both players.

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [6c 7c 5c 4c Kc 8c] [3h]
change100 bets 800
pokerenthusiast calls 800
change100 shows [4d Ac 5s 9s 2d 7s Ah] 7,5,4,2,A
Loretta8 shows [6h 4s 5d 2s 6d Ts 3c] 6,5,4,3,2

I make my 7 but change has a better 7…I may or may not have been behind the whole time. And Loretta hits to take the other pot as well. I was right vs one player but maybe not the other.

This was all but the end of my night. I actually got some chips back with my luckbox skills that I borrowed from surflexus but they were not enough and I went out in 24th place.

Not sure if the big losing hand was played right or not. It was hard to get away from all those chips.

1 comment:

The Monster Stack said...

I didn't have time to read the HHs that you posted but I just wanted to say that I completely dunked off my chips pretty early on and just didn't play well. It's rare that I do that as I usually go deep in Razz tournaments. I almost never get aggressive early on and have even been known to sit out the first level. I have kept your post in my reader and hope to get to it. It's hard to find a Razz blog and I enjoy discussing the hands you post.
~TMS