PE's FTOPS Razz.....part 2

So up to this point in the tourney I have my starting stack. Still being early, this is fine. I’m really trying to accumulate chips at an average rate and wait for the big hand to move me up. Here was a hand that I got away from that could have been very costly.

Full Tilt Poker Game #5258082794: FTOPS Event #14 (35827619), Table 46 - 50/100 Ante 10 - Limit Razz - 21:46:10 ET - 2008/02/14
Seat 4: TheBrain (2,943)
Seat 5: pokerenthusiast (2,990)
Seat 6: PAJAY (3,055)
TheBrain antes 10
pokerenthusiast antes 10
PAJAY antes 10
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to TheBrain [5h]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [2d 7h] [6d]
Dealt to PAJAY [5s]
TheBrain completes it to 50
pokerenthusiast calls 50
PAJAY raises to 100
TheBrain calls 50
pokerenthusiast calls 50

This raise move, as I said in part 1, is a preferred play by PAJAY when he has three very good low cards. I call with three under a 7.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to TheBrain [5h] [4s]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [2d 7h 6d] [3d]
Dealt to PAJAY [5s] [6h]
TheBrain bets 50
pokerenthusiast calls 50
PAJAY raises to 100
TheBrain calls 50
pokerenthusiast calls 50

We all hit it hard and PAJAY re-raises again so I have to think he is drawing to a 6. thebrian has been an agro maniac for the most part and thus I want to try and stay involved in a hand with him if I can because he has played a lot of junk…I’m walkinging a thin line.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to TheBrain [5h 4s] [8d]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [2d 7h 6d 3d] [Qc]
Dealt to PAJAY [5s 6h] [Tc]
TheBrain bets 100
pokerenthusiast has 15 seconds left to act
pokerenthusiast calls 100
PAJAY calls 100

This may have been a little questionable but I did think about the call. I may have a draw to a vulnerable 7 but I do have a solid draw and the implied odds are high.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to TheBrain [5h 4s 8d] [6s]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [2d 7h 6d 3d Qc] [6c]
Dealt to PAJAY [5s 6h Tc] [Ah]
TheBrain bets 100
pokerenthusiast folds
PAJAY raises to 200
TheBrain raises to 300
PAJAY raises to 400
TheBrain calls 100

No question I fold here. Either player could have a made 6 so I run.

*** 7TH STREET ***
TheBrain bets 100
PAJAY raises to 200
TheBrain calls 100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PAJAY shows [Qd 4c 5s 6h Tc Ah 2c] 6,5,4,2,A
TheBrain shows [8h 2s 5h 4s 8d 6s As] 6,5,4,2,A
TheBrain ties for the pot (1,098) with 6,5,4,2,A
PAJAY ties for the pot (1,097) with 6,5,4,2,A

I may have lost 100 more than I should have here.

After losing a few hand I run into an example of position play. Here I have an 8 behind and call the bet from a big stack at the table.

Full Tilt Poker Game #5258500576: FTOPS Event #14 (35827619), Table 46 - 60/120 Ante 10 - Limit Razz - 22:20:58 ET - 2008/02/14
Seat 2: ringjob3 (4,753)
Seat 5: pokerenthusiast (2,620)
ringjob3 antes 10
pokerenthusiast antes 10
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to ringjob3 [Ad]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [6d 8s] [5c]
ringjob3 completes it to 60
pokerenthusiast calls 60

I make the call with position on his bet.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to ringjob3 [Ad] [6c]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [6d 8s 5c] [Ah]
pokerenthusiast bets 60
ringjob3 calls 60

I want to see where I am at.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to ringjob3 [Ad 6c] [Kh]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [6d 8s 5c Ah] [Jh]
pokerenthusiast bets 120
ringjob3 calls 120

I have the lead and want to see if he has bricked the 6.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to ringjob3 [Ad 6c Kh] [7s]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [6d 8s 5c Ah Jh] [3s]
pokerenthusiast bets 120
ringjob3 folds
Uncalled bet of 120 returned to pokerenthusiast
pokerenthusiast mucks
pokerenthusiast wins the pot (580)

I may or may not have the lead here. I need information and bet out to see his action. He folds and I’m back to even for the tourney.

By this point we are in the moving stage where people are starting to drop and you must gain chips along the way.

I get my biggest hand to date here.

Full Tilt Poker Game #5258645093: FTOPS Event #14 (35827619), Table 46 - 80/160 Ante 15 - Limit Razz - 22:32:52 ET - 2008/02/14
Seat 3: Suicide King007 (3,564)
Seat 5: pokerenthusiast (2,585)
Seat 7: NEONPILS99 (2,938)
Suicide King007 antes 15
pokerenthusiast antes 15
NEONPILS99 antes 15
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to Suicide King007 [3h]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d 2s] [6c]
Dealt to NEONPILS99 [Ah]
pokerenthusiast completes it to 80
NEONPILS99 raises to 160
Suicide King007 calls 160
pokerenthusiast calls 80

No way I fold this and want to catch a hand. NEONPILS99 likes to re raise to isolate also.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to Suicide King007 [3h] [9h]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d 2s 6c] [9s]
Dealt to NEONPILS99 [Ah] [Ac]
Suicide King007 bets 80
pokerenthusiast calls 80
NEONPILS99 calls 80

Need to see where everyone is. I don’t give free cards when I think I’m ahead.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to Suicide King007 [3h 9h] [8d]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d 2s 6c 9s] [7s]
Dealt to NEONPILS99 [Ah Ac] [Qs]
pokerenthusiast bets 160
NEONPILS99 folds
Suicide King007 calls 160

I am clearly ahead and bet at the worse 9. He needs runner-runner if I catch a non-brick lower than a seven.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to Suicide King007 [3h 9h 8d] [5h]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d 2s 6c 9s 7s] [Ks]
Suicide King007 checks
pokerenthusiast bets 160
Suicide King007 calls 160

He checks and I bet. I need to know where I’m at and his call says chaser.

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [4d 2s 6c 9s 7s Ks] [Kd]
Suicide King007 checks
pokerenthusiast checks

I check it down cuz he may have hit.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
pokerenthusiast wins the pot (1,505) with 9,7,6,4,2
Seat 3: Suicide King007 mucked [Jh 5d 3h 9h 8d 5h Ad] - 9,8,5,3,A

This was not the last time he chased.

After running my 7 into a better 7 I got involved in a couple of hands with PAJAY that hurt me bad. He was calling many of the hands I bet out and re-raising most of those. I ran into some bricks and I was down to 1300 or so chips. We tangled a few times and I won some of my chips back when I hit another big hand.

Full Tilt Poker Game #5258968271: FTOPS Event #14 (35827619), Table 46 - 120/240 Ante 20 - Limit Razz - 22:59:43 ET - 2008/02/14
Seat 2: ringjob3 (6,428)
Seat 3: Suicide King007 (3,750)
Seat 5: pokerenthusiast (1,690)
ringjob3 antes 20
Suicide King007 antes 20
pokerenthusiast antes 20
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to ringjob3 [2h]
Dealt to Suicide King007 [As]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3c 5s] [4d]
ringjob3 completes it to 120
Suicide King007 raises to 240
pokerenthusiast calls 240
ringjob3 calls 120

This is a standard bet for ringjob. He has been using his stack to scare players so I think it is possible that SK007 is playing back at him. No way I fold here as I need the chips and I could triple up…this may be the end of my game if I hit hard on 4th.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to ringjob3 [2h] [Ks]
Dealt to Suicide King007 [As] [Kh]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3c 5s 4d] [8c]
pokerenthusiast bets 120
ringjob3 folds
Suicide King007 calls 120

I am going to war. I am ahead and bet out.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to Suicide King007 [As Kh] [Qh]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3c 5s 4d 8c] [8h]
Suicide King007 bets 240
pokerenthusiast raises to 480
Suicide King007 calls 240

I will re-raise here every time. He needs to go runner-runner to have a chance even if I catch a J.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to Suicide King007 [As Kh Qh] [8d]
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3c 5s 4d 8c 8h] [7h]
Suicide King007 checks
pokerenthusiast bets 240
Suicide King007 calls 240

I have an 8 and he is drawing to a better 8 I’m sure.

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [3c 5s 4d 8c 8h 7h] [Qd]
Suicide King007 checks
pokerenthusiast bets 240
Suicide King007 calls 240

I actually took some time before betting here. I figured I would call any bet from him so I might as well bet. I anly had about 500 left when I threw in this bet so I might as well get as much in as possible.
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pokerenthusiast shows [Qd 5s 4d 8c 8h 7h 3c] 8,7,5,4,3
pokerenthusiast wins the pot (3,080) with 8,7,5,4,3
Seat 3: Suicide King007 mucked [Qs 3s As Kh Qh 8d 2c] - Q,8,3,2,A

He chased again and lost. This seemed to be his move in that he would gain some chips and give them back by chasing. Now he did have a good draw at the end but I think it is a clear fold after 5th street.

The players continued to chase.

Full Tilt Poker Game #5259015550: FTOPS Event #14 (35827619), Table 46 - 120/240 Ante 20 - Limit Razz - 23:03:44 ET - 2008/02/14
Seat 5: pokerenthusiast (3,290)
Seat 7: NEONPILS99 (3,748)
pokerenthusiast antes 20
NEONPILS99 antes 20
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [2c 6d] [As]
Dealt to NEONPILS99 [4c]
pokerenthusiast completes it to 120
NEONPILS99 calls 120

I was surprised when he didn’t re-raise this hand. I’m thinking he has a stronger hand and is trying to trap me.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [2c 6d As] [4h]
Dealt to NEONPILS99 [4c] [Jh]
pokerenthusiast bets 120
NEONPILS99 calls 120

I get hit hard and want to see if he will chase.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [2c 6d As 4h] [Kh]
Dealt to NEONPILS99 [4c Jh] [5s]
NEONPILS99 checks
pokerenthusiast bets 240
NEONPILS99 calls 240

I bet because he checked. I probably bet here regardless because I bet…that’s what I do.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to pokerenthusiast [2c 6d As 4h Kh] [5d]
Dealt to NEONPILS99 [4c Jh 5s] [Ts]
NEONPILS99 checks
pokerenthusiast bets 240
NEONPILS99 has 15 seconds left to act
NEONPILS99 folds
Uncalled bet of 240 returned to pokerenthusiast
pokerenthusiast mucks
pokerenthusiast wins the pot (1,160)

He finally gives it up.

After the first 2 hours I have my above average stack and I’m ready to roll.